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March 31st, 2024 09:38

Inspiron 15 3520 ram speed running 2666mhz instead of 3200mhz

Inspiron 15 3520

Inspiron 15 3520

1. Why ram is locked at 2666 speed instead of 3200 mhz?? the original 8gb memory hynix  module supports 3200 mhz however it is downclocked to 2666mhz. the cou is i5-1235U and capable for 3200mhz ram speed clock.

There is no bios option for memory speed, or speedstep or cpu or virtualization.

Please give as an explanation why dell has limited its memory speed capability rather than saying that usb c is not included as per the specs. is it just bios locked or is there any other technical explanation.

2. Would changing battery to 54wh with 15vdc instead of 41wh with 11.2vdc solve the issue?? As per the service manual both are supported. The charger is the same.

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March 31st, 2024 16:41

Systems at this end of the market are built to a price -- to keep the base model price down, the manufacturer likely recycled an older mainboard design with cheaper components on it.  It's very common these days, where every cent counts in the cost of the final product.

Most buyers at this end of the market are principally concerned with the cost of the system -- just a couple of dollars one way or the other will tip the balance toward someone choosing a Dell system -- or one from a competitor.  Just as it's common for a base model car to come with an older-generation engine and transmission, so it is with notebook computers and the components (and the limitations they impose).

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March 31st, 2024 17:19

The only real difference between equivalent Vostro and Inspiron models is the case color and software preloaded.  They're otherwise the same -- some even use exactly the same system boards.

As I wrote earlier, these are sold in the lowest end of the market, so the feature sets match the price.

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March 31st, 2024 10:59

According to the manual, the model with no USB-C connector is 2666 MHz only.  Only if you have a USB-C model will 3200 MHz run at full speed.

No -- changing the battery will do nothing for memory speed.

https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-us/inspiron-15-3520-laptop/inspiron_3520_ss/memory?guid=guid-e9d2ea83-38a4-431d-803c-96d63c1dbc34&lang=en-us

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March 31st, 2024 16:32

1. why ?? the inclusion of  usb type c gives a ram higher frequency

someone with a technical answer?? e.g is there a reason apart from 3 cell battery lower power. i.e higher frequency ram consumes more power.

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March 31st, 2024 16:47

your reply makes sense but here is another hypothesis of marketing i.e  maket segmentation, through product differentiation by adding features to add value for higher profit.

i.e dell has has done this on purpose and components are the same just to make  some prospective customers buy the more expensive usb type c dell model. M

could this also be valid?? e.g bios lock of ram speed at lower clock??

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March 31st, 2024 17:05

You'd need to talk to the engineers in China who designed the system, and even then you won't get a definitive answer.   They design a system to sell at the price Dell wants.

You can't redesign the mainboard or rewrite the firmware either way, and replacing the mainboard with one having USB will require more than just the mainboard, plus cost more than 50% of what the system did initially, making very little difference in the end. If you need the faster RAM, sell the system and buy one that meets your needs.

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March 31st, 2024 17:18

actually Dell vostro with same cpu and 3200 ram speed with usb type c  and 4cell 54 wh battery sells for 100 usd more . Product appeared few weeks after having purchased my dell laptop.

might sell it as you suggested

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April 2nd, 2024 06:00

will test if sk hynix module comply with the timings of the intel i5-1235u cpu to run 3200.

Seems that there is no issue with the memory modules to run 3200mhz speed.

Must be a bios rram speed lock or a motherboard design issue as you suggested.

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April 4th, 2024 05:18

@ejn63​ 

ordered 2 x16 hynix 3200 memory modules and a 54 wh battery. when all arrive will upgrade and test.

I will test fifa 23 capability of this dell laptop with intel 12 gen and dual ram (iris xe) though I doubt it will work very well without 3200 mhz ram capability and or an i7 and or a dedicated onboard graphic chip but I wanted the 3200 feature enabled in order to remove one of the uncertainties for better graphic performance/speed. Seems the task in hand will not be resolved as Dell has made that clear that it is not supported.

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April 4th, 2024 20:28

Good and bad news compared to a Dell latitude 5430 with same cpu and 32gb ram but with 3200 ram speed.

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Good news

1. 32 gb ram installed successfully 2 x 16gb

2. ram dual  mode enabled

3. Fifa 23 can now work and play

4. Disk mark I was better

5. 2D mark I was better

Bad news

1. still 2666 mhz ram speed and found no way to enable 3200 mhz ram speed.

2. Fifa 23 definitely needs 3200 mhz modules as there is an occasional-motion lag and delay of controller responsiveness

3. had to uninstall dell support assist as it was consuming all my ram and rendering my laptop unresponsive.

4. 93% passmark ram speed of comparative laptop.

5. 3D mark I was 1% lower due to 2666mhz ram module

6. cpu mark I was 56% of total of  alternative dell latitude laptops. This is very strange.

overall I would think that an i7 or an i5-1335u with 3200mhz ram speed would be a better choice though  definitely go with the 120hz screen and i5-1335u cpu ot an i7-1355u if gaming is essential.

Did not comprehend he reason why my cpu mark suffered by 56 of comparative laptop results.

Any remedies o how to increase cpu mark??

Are turbo boost or speedstep turned off??

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April 4th, 2024 20:40

Are you comparing an i7 Latitude with an i5 Inspiron?

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April 5th, 2024 03:28

same cpu same video card so it is an i5-1235u dell latitude.5430 

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April 5th, 2024 09:13

should I enable turbo boost power max to 28w?? 

 Dell has set this to 20w but using the intel extreme tuning utility it can be modified? the default according to XTU is 28w. 

Also turbo boost short power max is set to 39w  which is the default. Max is 55w should I increase this to 55 ??

Test 1: increase turbo boost  short power max from 20w to 28w and decrease turbo boost short power max from 39w to 28w. 

I get about 76% of best test.

Test 1  increased my results but still not enough

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April 5th, 2024 10:27

What happened to your original Inspiron 3520?

And no, neither system will handle the head dissipated by that much power, even if you set the system to run that way.

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April 5th, 2024 10:38

still here. I have set both short and long turbo boost to 28w still 76% of best result. cpu temperature rises to 95oC.

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